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08-09-2009, 02:34 PM   #11

Re: : My name is Sophia, and the RSPCA cannot be trusted. (Update @ post 105)


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I am a member/ or was a member , cancelled it as of friday, of this local branch. I had in the past signed these forms BUT said if there ever was a problem, that i would take any cats they couldnt rehome back..and every time they gave them back to me, and i successfully rehomed them.
The branch i am talking about, i have had dealings with the last 5 years or so, i even was a volunteer in the cattery.
The last feral cat , ann marie, was taken in by them, and which i said to them i would take back if she couldnt be handled, they phoned me and told me to take her back, a form was signed back then also.
I hear what you are saying but the thing is that even before i signed the form , they said that THEY WOULD CALL ME! Thats why i left my work number and mobile..and then the form was signed..and i had a eye witness to this, my sister in law, she was with me.
I am well known for my work with animals in yorkshire, but somebody over there wasnt doing what they had promised to do and that was to call me.
Please don't be angry at me...
I was just explaining how the system works for other people on this thread!!!
To make others think before handing over to SSPCA/RSPCA, knowledge is power as I say!
I AM ON YOUR SIDE, if you read towards the end of my first post, I explained that your contact details maybe got lost (it happens) or were not passed on/ slipped through the net. And I did say that this was 'unforgivable'. But legally they are not obliged to do so.... But morally YES!!!
Please reread my first post to you, a bit long I know...
Whats your progress? Have you contacted them about the male kitten? We would all love to know, how it turns out.



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08-09-2009, 04:08 PM   #12

Re: : My name is Sophia, and the RSPCA cannot be trusted. (Update @ post 105)


...And I would not advise animal lovers to stop donating to charities when mistakes are made. Cos in the long run, if funding decreases EVEN MORE animals will be pts or not rescued at all to cut costs. Thus, punishing the poor animals, and not the humans that make these decisions.
Just a thought...



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08-09-2009, 10:34 PM   #13

Re: : My name is Sophia, and the RSPCA cannot be trusted. (Update @ post 105)


I'm so sorry to hear this, yet another utter crap up and why I absolutely despise the RSPCA. Prevention of cruelty fair enough, but not by PTS every animal they don't feel is 'good' enough to warrant a chance.



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08-09-2009, 11:25 PM   #14

Re: : My name is Sophia, and the RSPCA cannot be trusted. (Update @ post 105)


please dont think i was angry with you..
i am not, infact, i didnt know i would get so much support from all you guys.

thankyou so much.
sophia.



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08-09-2009, 11:41 PM   #15

Re: : My name is Sophia, and the RSPCA cannot be trusted. (Update @ post 105)


The rspca head office, and local branch is looking into what happened on saturday, when i left the kittens and the mum.
I recieved a letter from them today.

The little boy, has colichi virus, type of cat flu, but i have asked the manager to give me a call for when he is ready for adoption as i want him to come with me.
Im not resting until he is safely back with me...i will continue to look in on his progress every other day.

Im told there will be a full investigation into what happened but i still keep telling myself, i should never have taken them there, and if i get the boy kitten back, then i will give him so much love that it goes straight to his mum and little sister.
i will keep you all notified, and please can you say a prayer that i can get him home.
thankyou for yr support..it means so much to me.
sophia



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09-09-2009, 10:55 AM   #16

Re: : My name is Sophia, and the RSPCA cannot be trusted. (Update @ post 105)


I do not wish to cause upset here but I must speak up on behalf of the RSPCA.

YES, they make mistakes, YES things go wrong, YES they do sometimes have staff/volunteers who are not all that they should be, either caring-wise or with sufficient understanding and knowledge.
BUT, this is a huge organisation and there are many hundreds of people involved. I don't imagine any organisation or charity of this size gets everything right and only manages to employ/attract perfect folk who don't make poor decisions.

I have family members involved with the RSPCA and if you had seen some of the things they have had to deal with, it would make your blood run cold. On occasions they have also been subject to personal attacks and threats.
I have known them work more than 24 hours without a break in an effort to save the life of an animal and it has taken blood sweat and many tears, not always successfully.
In one particular case, the RSPCA removed a dog to a place of safety, the owner went to court, was foolishly given the dog back and it was dead within weeks. I won't write here what the owner did to it.

This may seem a rant and is in no way an attack on anyone who has had a bad experience, but please, believe me, there are some incredibly 'good' people working with the RSPCA who would be equally outraged at an animal being PTS for no reason other than it would be 'difficult to re-home'.



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09-09-2009, 12:34 PM   #17

Re: : My name is Sophia, and the RSPCA cannot be trusted. (Update @ post 105)


I understand what you are trying to say but when only bad things are reported that they have done to animals they will get stick.



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09-09-2009, 02:48 PM   #18

Re: : My name is Sophia, and the RSPCA cannot be trusted. (Update @ post 105)


Fay-Rose, I think the primary issue people have is the RSPCA's policy of euthanising healthy animals or ones which they deem 'difficult to home'. For those of us involved with Cats Protection which operates a non-destroy policy unless the animal is very unwell - even then, where possible they will try and either rehome into a specialist environment or keep as a long-term foster.

I'm sure those involved on a salaried our volunteer basis with the RSPCA are also involved out of love for animals; I don't think anyone is doubting that.

In this instance yes - maybe a mistake was made - but it's the overall policy that underpins and ultimately condones this rather rash action of animal destruction that has resulted in much anger here.



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09-09-2009, 03:51 PM   #19

Re: : My name is Sophia, and the RSPCA cannot be trusted. (Update @ post 105)


The RSPCA has many volunteers who I utterly applaud, due to the hard work and commitment they put in to animal welfare. However the RSPCA as a whole is a very flawed organisation! I have known of 100's of instances where they have not lifted one finger to help animals in distress or/and danger, we have all read the horrific reports of animals and pets being destroyed due to incompetence and to be perfectly frank, money seems to matter much more than the animals! catwoman wrote about not cutting off funding to them as more animals will suffer, well tbh, if they actually spent the money that was sitting in their bank accounts instead of hoarding it, thousands of animals need not be destroyed, but could be kept in kennels etc until new homes were found!!! if people want to give, and i pray that they do, give to animal charities with a no destruction policy, like CP, the dogs trust etc, charities that actually give a damn about the animals they are helping, and who desperately need the money! Rant over *sorry*



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09-09-2009, 04:13 PM   #20

Re: : My name is Sophia, and the RSPCA cannot be trusted. (Update @ post 105)


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Originally Posted by alexgirl73
The RSPCA has many volunteers who I utterly applaud, due to the hard work and commitment they put in to animal welfare. However the RSPCA as a whole is a very flawed organisation! I have known of 100's of instances where they have not lifted one finger to help animals in distress or/and danger, we have all read the horrific reports of animals and pets being destroyed due to incompetence and to be perfectly frank, money seems to matter much more than the animals! catwoman wrote about not cutting off funding to them as more animals will suffer, well tbh, if they actually spent the money that was sitting in their bank accounts instead of hoarding it, thousands of animals need not be destroyed, but could be kept in kennels etc until new homes were found!!! if people want to give, and i pray that they do, give to animal charities with a no destruction policy, like CP, the dogs trust etc, charities that actually give a damn about the animals they are helping, and who desperately need the money! Rant over *sorry*
Please if you are going to quote me, please quote me accurately... I was appealing for all charities not just the RSPCA/SSPCA.
I said....
...And I would not advise animal lovers to stop donating to charities when mistakes are made. Cos in the long run, if funding decreases EVEN MORE animals will be pts or not rescued at all to cut costs. Thus, punishing the poor animals, and not the humans that make these decisions.
Just a thought...

And its a fact that the RSPCA/SSPCA are struggling for money. The money you 'say' they have hoarded in the bank.... PLEASE...
They spend hundreds of thousands a month on wages, overheads, vets bills, food for animals, vans, fuel etc. the list goes on.... They need to have money in their account, to cover these expenses lol.
If you are gonna 'rant' get your facts correct, or you are in danger of punishing the poor animals even more by urging people to stop funding....
Life is not black and white, there is alot of grey areas...



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