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09-08-2007, 11:50 AM   #11

Re: People against accidental litters/casual breeding


I am ashamed of what happened to my cat, and for that reason i'd like my account deleted please azz, it's obvious i'm no longer a valued and/or respected member here.

Genuinely guys, it was an accident and I was actually truely and genuinely horrified to find a local tom had found it's way into our house, all of my cats are kept indoors bar one spayed female and one neutered tom where I stupidly and irresponsibly thought they were safe.

I have ultimately paid the price and do genuinely feel ashamed of myself, especially as one of the kittens I lost so early, she didn't ask to come here and she didn't ask to be taken away, but she was. And it's something I will have to live with forever.

In tears here and i'm sorry I lost your respect on this matter and I will leave the group as I am one of those sending it down the pan it seems.



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09-08-2007, 11:56 AM   #12

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In tears here and i'm sorry I lost your respect on this matter and I will leave the group as I am one of those sending it down the pan it seems.
Don't you dare leave! LOL

Please don't beat yourself up about an accident - we are all only human and are prone to making mistakes. That is what being human is we can make mistakes and LEARN from them and move on!
And hopefully other people will also learn from what had happened.

This is all going too far



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09-08-2007, 11:56 AM   #13

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Im sorry Random (if that was aimed at me,) but it really is how people are seeing this forum, and you so concerned about maddie have acted so responsibly I really was very shocked indeed, so were others. I also was in tears last night, for the first time, emotion took over from my anger, all these kittens being bred, has really really upset me like I thought it never ever would.
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09-08-2007, 12:00 PM   #14

Re: People against accidental litters/casual breeding


This thread has gone way off topic. The idea of this thread was to throw around ideas for the article suggested by Az. It's not meant to be a debate about responsible/irresponsible breeding


Can we get back on topic? Yola, that's great of you to offer to contribute to the article and I think it will be an excellent peice of work with your imput. Anybody else willing to contribute?



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09-08-2007, 12:03 PM   #15

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I think this is horrendous. Can people get a grip of the situation? are we trying our best to make people feel like s**t? Does that make us feel powerful and good about ourselves? It's embarressing to genuine cat lovers really.

Don't you dare leave this site random. Your tale will help others in similar situations, isn't that what life is about education and learning experiences?



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09-08-2007, 12:05 PM   #16

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This thread has gone way off topic. The idea of this thread was to throw around ideas for the article suggested by Az. It's not meant to be a debate about responsible/irresponsible breeding


Can we get back on topic? Yola, that's great of you to offer to contribute to the article and I think it will be an excellent peice of work with your imput. Anybody else willing to contribute?
At the moment I'm unable to but in a couple of weeks if you are all still working on the article then I would love to try and help out in some way.



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09-08-2007, 12:06 PM   #17

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It wasn't aimed particularly at anyone Dawn but if people feel that way about me i'd rather leave than drag the site down if that is what people see me as doing.

It broke my heart to make the appointment for Maddy as a lot of people know and had I been irresponsible I could have went ahead and bred her anyway, I thought I was responsible but if people see me as just another byb due to what happened then that breaks my heart, hand on heart I am ashamed of what happened with my cat and that's something I have to live with knowing I contributed to the problem, which to me is punishment enough.



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09-08-2007, 12:09 PM   #18

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At the moment I'm unable to but in a couple of weeks if you are all still working on the article then I would love to try and help out in some way.
Thank you Emm, I'm sure it will take some time to get this article together, your imput would be very much appreciated.



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09-08-2007, 12:14 PM   #19

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It wasn't aimed particularly at anyone Dawn but if people feel that way about me i'd rather leave than drag the site down if that is what people see me as doing.

It broke my heart to make the appointment for Maddy as a lot of people know and had I been irresponsible I could have went ahead and bred her anyway, I thought I was responsible but if people see me as just another byb due to what happened then that breaks my heart, hand on heart I am ashamed of what happened with my cat and that's something I have to live with know I contributed to the problem, which to me is punishment enough.
Youre being daft now! NOBODY sees you as irresponsible with maddie, thats the point, why were the Cats so different?

I know accidents "can" happen, but not on the scale they happen on here Random, I totally respect your decision with Maddie, I actually think you are a very dedicated owner given the problems you have with her, you should be very proud to be working through them the way you are, some would of given up a long time ago.

The problem is, its the attitude, its the "whats done is done" scenario and "oh how wonderful" 6/7/15 moggy kittens needing homes when there are around 10,000 each year as it is! then the "oh it wasnt my fault" well it is, I know I sound a cow, but it is up to US as RESPONSIBLE ownwers to make 100% sure our pets are safe.
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09-08-2007, 12:21 PM   #20

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This has got off topic

Fran - I'll help too

Random - don't you dare leave!! As I have already said, I made an error of judgement with Lily and she got pregnant and it was the worst thing that could have happened. But I dealt with it, she was a wonderful mum, the kittens have all gone to friends and friends-of-friends and I have stayed on the board here to try and help people in similar situations and use myself and the unwanted pregnancy as an example of how not to do things!!! lol but accidents do happen.

They happen with humans too - unwanted/unplanned pregnancies are a fact of life.

However, I agree with Dawn that we are all 100% responsible to ensure that our pets are safe and our pets should come first.



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