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30-06-2006, 07:27 PM   #11

Re: Are torties always female?


Very well explained Hreow. I didn't know of any fertile tortie males being born only infertile.



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30-06-2006, 07:54 PM   #12

Re: Are torties always female?


I understand MAny thanks

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30-06-2006, 08:00 PM   #13

Re: Are torties always female?


Thanks Hreow!

Kay.
I think a Vet and anyone would know if a Cat was a heamaphrodite, I boarded one, a ginger, she was spayed at 6mths, but she absolutely stunk by 12mths, of Tom Cat pee! Investigations revealed she had testicles too, inside, never sprayed just reeked. I wouldnt board her again, the smell was awful, despite being castrated and spayed she has never altered, the smell is soooooo bad. The owners call her stinky Minky! She is one who has a pen outside.
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30-06-2006, 08:48 PM   #14

Re: Are torties always female?


My cat genetics book, which is admittedly quite old (A.C. Jude - 1955) says that the occasional tortie male s actually genetically XX (female) but influenced by male hormones from a womb mate to appear male. Almost 100% sterile as studies of the testes showed that normal reproductive cells were altogether lacking.



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30-06-2006, 10:24 PM   #15

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If you do a search on here, there is a link to the messybeast article about torties, as I asked about tortie tabbies, and the article should explain about this too.



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30-06-2006, 10:38 PM   #16

Re: Are torties always female?


I think this is the link you mean.....

http://messybeast.com/tricolours.htm



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30-06-2006, 11:06 PM   #17

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Thanks Hreow!

Kay.
I think a Vet and anyone would know if a Cat was a heamaphrodite, I boarded one, a ginger, she was spayed at 6mths, but she absolutely stunk by 12mths, of Tom Cat pee! Investigations revealed she had testicles too, inside, never sprayed just reeked. I wouldnt board her again, the smell was awful, despite being castrated and spayed she has never altered, the smell is soooooo bad. The owners call her stinky Minky! She is one who has a pen outside.
Dawn.
I have to disagree there Dawn as my vet also mis interpreted both of my babies and I can assure it is very difficult especially in a long haired cat. Surely if what you are saying is right then the vet who spayed her at 6 months should have realised then and obviously didn't.



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30-06-2006, 11:31 PM   #18

Re: Are torties always female?


Years ago I looked after a ginger kitten for a rescue, it was a tiny little thing, and when we took it to the vets to be checked turned out to be a girl! she never grew any bigger than a kitten, and only lived till she was 2...



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01-07-2006, 07:12 PM   #19

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I have to disagree there Dawn as my vet also mis interpreted both of my babies and I can assure it is very difficult especially in a long haired cat. Surely if what you are saying is right then the vet who spayed her at 6 months should have realised then and obviously didn't.
No he didnt see anything Kay, both testicles were retained, in the groin area, its only when the spraying began they thought there was something amiss, the testes were seen on ultra sound.

I may of said it wrong, I mean if you buy what appears to be female starts spraying and stinking, there must be something not quite right, same as if an outwardly male Cat is neutered then starts calling, somethings not quite right.
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01-07-2006, 08:53 PM   #20

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I agree with a male cat starting to call there is something very wrong, mind you if you heard my stud cat then you would think he was calling he's that loud, but females can and do spray and smell just as bad as males. So that isn't necessary a tell tale sign.



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