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21-11-2009, 11:05 AM   #11

Re: Disturbing reading - Guide Dog attacked


I agree with everything you say Dawn.
It was not an intentional attack, however it was quite a serious one.
the dog had bite wounds to her neck, paws & abdomen. 2 large open wounds which needed flushing and antibiotics - she didn't have any stitches as the vet advised it would be best to leave them open due to the nature of them.
She is now back working.
The police are still loking for the guy.
On a side-note the vet bill was huge, not sure why it was so much as I don't know all the details. Anyway - she's ok that's the main thing.



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21-11-2009, 01:42 PM   #12

Re: Disturbing reading - Guide Dog attacked


Thank kelly, Im pleased she is ok. I hope they find the guy, if only to educate him about keeping hold of his dog in public.



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21-11-2009, 02:31 PM   #13

Re: Disturbing reading - Guide Dog attacked


It's the mental scars that the guide dog will now bear that worry me. Having had one of my girls experience a nasty attack from another dog, 12 months on, we are still having problems with her fear of other dogs. IMO the attack should never have happened and a dog as nasty as that should be muzzled in public



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21-11-2009, 02:45 PM   #14

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It's the mental scars that the guide dog will now bear that worry me. Having had one of my girls experience a nasty attack from another dog, 12 months on, we are still having problems with her fear of other dogs. IMO the attack should never have happened and a dog as nasty as that should be muzzled in public
Well it appears this dog has none Fran or I expect Guide Dogs wouldnt have her out working again.

Many dogs have the type of temperament that these things dont affect. One of my dogs was attacked too some time ago, by a black lab, he was absolutely fine and showed no ill effects either physically or mentally. In fact he still sees the dog who still wants to attack him and every other dog it sees, yet he ignores him completely. This dog is not muzzled and his owner is convinced her dog is "fine." Some dogs of course are adversely affected and its very very sad, and as you rightly say, these attacks should not happen.

I think in this case at least, the guy only needed to have stood on his dogs lead and this accident would of been prevented, it appears his can and fag were more important!



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21-11-2009, 03:01 PM   #15

Re: Disturbing reading - Guide Dog attacked


Whatever our opinions there is no getting away from the fact that the man who owns the dog has broken the law. The dog was dangerously out of control in a public place, this is a criminal offence. Next time it might be a child the dog attacks...



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21-11-2009, 03:29 PM   #16

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I simply can't believe he walked away, leaving a blind person there, alone to catch & attend to her dog (who was taken to a nearby vet)

The dog is again working & if there was any brekdown in her work, she wouldn't be working, so she must be a little sweetie who trusts her GDO.

She's a special girl really, for 2 reasons. As you know we mainly breed our own dogs (buying in a very small percentage of dogs) we also don't use many chocolates. However She's a little chocolate girlie as well being totally outside bred (outside as opposed to in-house) so completely different lines to our working stock. She qualified as a Guide Dog and is still working after this episode. She's 3 and a half. little poppett.



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21-11-2009, 06:23 PM   #17

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Whatever our opinions there is no getting away from the fact that the man who owns the dog has broken the law. The dog was dangerously out of control in a public place, this is a criminal offence. Next time it might be a child the dog attacks...
Come on Fran thats a ridiculous thing to "assume" isnt it, there is nothing to suggest that at all. Im sure the dog that shook my dog 12ft across the ground then opened the side of his chest up hasnt attacked a child yet, or perhaps it has! Nobody has said the dog was under control, everybody has said he was wrong to drop the lead, the ONLY thing anyone has said is that it was an accident and it was.

The dog that attacked my dog was no accident, the owner cannot control him, yet she still has him loose, its not only my dog thats been attacked by him, he has attacked several, she blantently KNOWS her dog is dog aggressive, yet chooses to run him loose where other dogs are. Im sure though, that his dog aggression wont turn into people aggression, I find that a really naive thing to say. Id love to see the evidence of this happening, even fighting Pit Bulls dont attack their moronic owners, which to be honest is a shame!



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21-11-2009, 06:25 PM   #18

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I simply can't believe he walked away, leaving a blind person there, alone to catch & attend to her dog (who was taken to a nearby vet)

The dog is again working & if there was any brekdown in her work, she wouldn't be working, so she must be a little sweetie who trusts her GDO.

She's a special girl really, for 2 reasons. As you know we mainly breed our own dogs (buying in a very small percentage of dogs) we also don't use many chocolates. However She's a little chocolate girlie as well being totally outside bred (outside as opposed to in-house) so completely different lines to our working stock. She qualified as a Guide Dog and is still working after this episode. She's 3 and a half. little poppett.
She didnt look a bad type Kelly, the picture I saw. Do you think the breeding may of accounted for her different temperament? I mean more of a couldnt care less attitude, or get on with it type, rather than the more sensitive type many guide dogs can be?



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21-11-2009, 08:31 PM   #19

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This is a sad sad incident I am no way watching the video link...but read the information. I am pleased the dog is okay (after treatment) however I agree the other dog owner should not have left the scene. But sometimes people get panicked/shocked like people who leave the scene of an accident or just freeze. There again he may just be the sort of person who couldn't care less.

As most of you know my brother and his family have a little Westie pup Alfie....he is 17 weeks old now and was attacked by a boxer 2 weeks ago he had stitches in his shoulder, and severe bruising as he was shaken.

Alfie was on lead and with my sister in law she had a pushchair with the baby in and the Boxer appeared out of nowhere, attacked the pup and the owner called the dog and walked off. Leaving a woman with a baby and a bleeding puppy on the canalside path.

A man on a barge and two fishermen all from the opposite sides of the bank gcame over and gave assistance.

The vets bill was £385...but luckily the pup is not at all bothered so far by meeting other dogs....what irritates me is the man never stopped, said sorry nothing. But the dog is known to be dangerous, according to other walkers on the path he has attacked before.
What guts me is this was the first time Toni (s-i-l) has done this walk without me and Sal. I introduced her to the walk on the flat easy to do with the pushchair. I have never seen the Boxer off lead before though...but maybe thats self preservation.....by the owner he has a dog that attacks (so puts lead on if approaching dog that can do it damage if attacked, thats what we think)

Alfie is still charging about and totaly chilled with other dogs, maybe thats down to good breeding and good socilisation.



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22-11-2009, 12:45 AM   #20

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Alfie is still charging about and totaly chilled with other dogs, maybe thats down to good breeding and good socilisation.

Think yourself lucky then because according to our dog trainer, the majority of problem dogs she sees are those that have been attacked by another dog and she sees many and is an extremely good, accredited, experienced trainer. My dog is extremely well socialised as all my pups /dogs are, she was very young when the attack happened, it was a vicious, unprovoked attack and she was on a lead. it has mentally scarred her for life

You lot make me laugh you really do, like you condone that it's alright that this should have happened just because it was a 'terrier' type dog that a lot of you own. FACT - this guy has broken the law and that's the bottom line



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