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[Soupie]

Originally Posted by sarahd

I'm withholding my pink slips until the kittens sold have been speyed / neutered.

Am assuming the pink slip is the GCCF registration paper?

Originally Posted by sarahd

I have spoken to my vets about early neutering / speying and they are very reluctant to do it. Mainly because things are still not developed properly at the age of 12 - 13 weeks. Obviously the kittens don't go any earlier than 13 weeks as per the recommended GCCF guidelines. Personally I do think its too early though and would rather refrain from doing it so early and would be more inclined to go with the 6 months age or thereabouts

I have always neutered at about 6 months although we have had others done before that between 4-6 months as they were showing signs of sexual activity and had them done on vet's advice.

Me personally I'm not sure I would buy a kitten from a breeder who withheld their registration papers until neutered. Mainly because this could mean the new owner may not be able to register their new kitten for a few months if they buy at 13 weeks and kitten is not done until a bit older on vet's advice. In the meantime they have no proof the kitten is legally theirs other than a receipt from breeder.

I can see why breeders do it but I personally would be miffed to pay £600 (Selkirks) or whatever and have the ownership papers withheld albeit I would get them at a later stage.

[Kay]

Originally Posted by Soupie

Am assuming the pink slip is the GCCF registration paper?



I have always neutered at about 6 months although we have had others done before that between 4-6 months as they were showing signs of sexual activity and had them done on vet's advice.

Me personally I'm not sure I would buy a kitten from a breeder who withheld their registration papers until neutered. Mainly because this could mean the new owner may not be able to register their new kitten for a few months if they buy at 13 weeks and kitten is not done until a bit older on vet's advice. In the meantime they have no proof the kitten is legally theirs other than a receipt from breeder.

I can see why breeders do it but I personally would be miffed to pay £600 (Selkirks) or whatever and have the ownership papers withheld albeit I would get them at a later stage.

I too withhold the pink slip it is the only way you can guarantee the kitten has been neutered. If somebody came to me and was not willing to agree to this then I am afraid they would not get a kitten from me as I would think they had intentions to breed. Most responsible breeders do this. The new owners do have proof of ownership in the form of a contract signed by both the new owner and myself and this is standard practice. Just because a registered cat is placed on the non-active register doesn't mean that the new owner can't breed from the cat but just that the offspring can't be registered. How many litters do you see advertised as pedigree but not registered? By withholding the pink slip and insisting they are neutered by 6 months of age and asking for veterinary proof of this is the best way of insuring that only cats that are suitable to be breed from are and in doing so improving the breed. Every pet owner I have sold a kitten to has had absolutely no qualms about this and has received the pink slip as soon as I have received the proof.

This I believe is responsible breeding.

[borderdawn]

Originally Posted by Soupie

Am assuming the pink slip is the GCCF registration paper?



I have always neutered at about 6 months although we have had others done before that between 4-6 months as they were showing signs of sexual activity and had them done on vet's advice.

Me personally I'm not sure I would buy a kitten from a breeder who withheld their registration papers until neutered. Mainly because this could mean the new owner may not be able to register their new kitten for a few months if they buy at 13 weeks and kitten is not done until a bit older on vet's advice. In the meantime they have no proof the kitten is legally theirs other than a receipt from breeder.

I can see why breeders do it but I personally would be miffed to pay £600 (Selkirks) or whatever and have the ownership papers withheld albeit I would get them at a later stage.

Thats steep.

[Soupie]

BD - Pet/show selkirks are anywhere from £450 to £600 at the moment and as the breed is still at indermediate status for GCCF most people are not charging extra for breeding quality cats but some are charging up to £1200 for breeding quality female kittens

[borderdawn]

I saw them advertised for £350 the same as the BSH

[Soupie]

Originally Posted by borderdawn

I saw them advertised for £350 the same as the BSH

I think it depends on the breeder and the quality of the kitten you are looking for to be honest. Pet quality kittens from a renowned breeder are about £400 to £500. Show quality for neutering slightly more and breeding stock even more as the number of cats in the country is still relatively small.

I know for the kitten I want next year from the person I consider one of the best breeders in the country producing fantastic stock will set me back between £500 -£600 but I am happy to pay that for a top class show cat