Overpopulation of cats - What Can We Do?

[smudgley]

Charlie - can you explain more about your thoughts on balancing out faults?
IE if a dog was a good type, of a breed that should have a scissor bite - lets say the dog has lovely movement & everything about him was good except he had a slightly undershot jaw, what would you mate him to? A bitch with an overshot jaw to balance out the fault?

[Fran]

Originally Posted by smudgley

Charlie - can you explain more about your thoughts on balancing out faults?
IE if a dog was a good type, of a breed that should have a scissor bite - lets say the dog has lovely movement & everything about him was good except he had a slightly undershot jaw, what would you mate him to? A bitch with an overshot jaw to balance out the fault?

Well I wouldn't do it that way I'd mate him to a bitch who had perfect scissor bite and also all the ancestors in her pedigree as far back as was possible to determine all had perfect bites too. I.e. a line that had no bite faults in it all

[charliebubs]

Originally Posted by smudgley

Charlie - can you explain more about your thoughts on balancing out faults?
IE if a dog was a good type, of a breed that should have a scissor bite - lets say the dog has lovely movement & everything about him was good except he had a slightly undershot jaw, what would you mate him to? A bitch with an overshot jaw to balance out the fault?

I have no idea about dogs and have never heard of a scissor bite but I wouldn't go to extremes as you are suggesting. If there is a "fault" as such then I would put that dog/cat to another that doesn't have that "fault" in itself or its pedigree ancestory - as Fran has said (thank you Fran )

I'm sure it's the same in dog breeding - ultimately a good breeder will want to breed a very healthy, lovely temperamented, well socialised, "perfect" show quality animal.

[borderdawn]

Originally Posted by charliebubs

Oh, you just can't resist a little dig!!! lol

NO I didnt mean that! It took me a while to realise what you meant, and we are talking PEDIGREE animals here as a basis for a kennel, not what you meant. Seriously.
Dawn.

[borderdawn]

Originally Posted by Fran

Well I wouldn't do it that way I'd mate him to a bitch who had perfect scissor bite and also all the ancestors in her pedigree as far back as was possible to determine all had perfect bites too. I.e. a line that had no bite faults in it all

I wouldnt mate the dog full stop! How can you eradicate faults in animals when you purposely breed from them with those faults?

Nice to see you Smudgley.
Dawn.

[smudgley]

That was my point Dawn.

a) that you shouldn't breed from animals with faults anyway, but b)if you do (as Charlie suggested with the eye colour) by going to the other extreme of the fault it is just doubling up on faults - not eliminating them.

What I'm trying to say is that if you put an animal with a fault to an animal with another fault, you are not going to get a good litter with neither fault.

Charlie - you are breeding cats & you have never heard of a scissor bite?

[Fran]

Originally Posted by borderdawn

I wouldnt mate the dog full stop! How can you eradicate faults in animals when you purposely breed from them with those faults?

Nice to see you Smudgley.
Dawn.

No responsible breeder would breed a dog/cat with an obvious fault if it was a particular fault of the breed but if the dog was slightly undershot/overshot or whatever and it wasn't a reconginised fault of the breed and the dog in every other way was worthy of breeding then I was showing an example of how reputable breeders would go about breeding from such a dog

[smudgley]

Originally Posted by Fran

No responsible breeder would breed a dog/cat with an obvious fault if it was a particular fault of the breed but if the dog was slightly undershot/overshot or whatever and it wasn't a reconginised fault of the breed and the dog in every other way was worthy of breeding then I was showing an example of how reputable breeders would go about breeding from such a dog

I agree Fran.

I was talking hyperthatically (sp?)

As we know responsible people wouldn't breed from the dog anyway, but I wanted to ask the question as Charlie had stated how she would correct eye colour / head size.

[Fran]

Originally Posted by smudgley

What I'm trying to say is that if you put an animal with a fault to an animal with another fault, you are not going to get a good litter with neither fault.

Exactly what I was trying to say

[smudgley]

Originally Posted by Fran

Exactly what I was trying to say

I know that's what you said Fran, but I don't think that's what Charlie was saying.