Breeding from moggies..intentional or oops litters

Jac · 14-07-2008, 09:53 AM

Yes I have too. Quite honestly I think its disgusting. When I saw that add at P&H the other day I saw red. I also blame stores like them for letting people advertise.
Remember when moggies were free? Even then people couldnt give them away. What changed?

ellenlouise · 14-07-2008, 12:46 PM

I agree that there are many breeders that do it for money - even GCCF registered breeders can be unethical, keeping more cats than they should, keeping cats in outdoor pens and then rehoming the cats when they are no longer producing kittens and making money for them

But please, please don't tar us all with the same brush. Ethical breeders are all for doing something to stop the unethical breeders and the back yard breeders. For me, my cats are my babies and they will always come first and foremost.

As for why we want to "further our lines and better the breed"....I can only speak for myself, but personally, I'm not a breeder on a big scale and nor will I ever be. For me, the joy is in showing my cats and I have bred because I would like to have my own home-bred cats on the show bench and to see them doing well. That would be the ultimate reward. I am not and nor will I ever be in it for money, because to be honest breeding costs a fortune

I've already had 2 vet trips with my 7 week old kittens because I'm the kind of person that wants any little ailment
checked and double-checked

So my expenses at the moment are already way-up and that's before the vaccinations etc.........but that's my choice and I'm happier to know that my kittens are healthy and well, rather than make any money.

Finally, as for the "accidental" litter debate - having had an accidental litter I do not feel I should involve myself except to say that genuine accidents can happen. I am not an unscrupulous person and nor did I sell those accidental kittens to make any profit - they all went to good homes with friends of mine, or friends of friends. I have also worked at Wood Green Animal Shelter and seen that side of things; I have seen many pregnant cats brought in, or cats with young kittens and have spent a lot of time trying to educate people about the importance of neutering. I am now involved with pedigree rescue and rehoming.

I think it's possible to be an ethical, responsible breeder and also been involved in rehoming. In fact, I think it's essential. It's given me such a better understanding of the bigger picture.[/quote]

I would never say that all breeders are bad as obviously the lady I brought Lily off was purely doing it to further the breed and produce healthy well socialised kittens she admitted that she make no money at all because she puts so much money into her cats. She only had one female and a male that was it. Some Breeders are fantastic as I am sure you are it is sad that the majority have to let people like you down!

charliebubs · 14-07-2008, 12:49 PM

Thanks Ellenlouise

bobbie3917 · 14-07-2008, 12:59 PM

was there not a lady on here that had either 2 cats of the same breed not on the active reg OR 1 pure breed and 1 cross with the same breed and she was thinking about mating them? the only reason she didnt get kittens from what i recall was that the boy left home never to be seen again, so is that OK?
or is some 1 just trying to have a go at 1 of the members on here cos of what she said about the ladies kitten

is it ok to have two cats find a foster home for them (which was good as she could no longer look after them) but when the times comes for her when she can then have a cat, she dont go and get her cats back she buys a new kitten,

alexgirl73 · 14-07-2008, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbie3917

was there not a lady on here that had either 2 cats of the same breed not on the active reg OR 1 pure breed and 1 cross with the same breed and she was thinking about mating them? the only reason she didnt get kittens from what i recall was that the boy left home never to be seen again, so is that OK?
or is some 1 just trying to have a go at 1 of the members on here cos of what she said about the ladies kitten

is it ok to have two cats find a foster home for them (which was good as she could no longer look after them) but when the times comes for her when she can then have a cat, she dont go and get her cats back she buys a new kitten,

Bang out of order bobbie! Jac did the best thing for her cats, not for her. She put the welfare of them first,and rather having them uprooted yet again, especially when one was susceptible to stress related illnesses, she left them in a loving and genuine home. Upsetting both her and her young daughter.

Muffinmay · 14-07-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbie3917

was there not a lady on here that had either 2 cats of the same breed not on the active reg OR 1 pure breed and 1 cross with the same breed and she was thinking about mating them? the only reason she didnt get kittens from what i recall was that the boy left home never to be seen again, so is that OK?
or is some 1 just trying to have a go at 1 of the members on here cos of what she said about the ladies kitten

is it ok to have two cats find a foster home for them (which was good as she could no longer look after them) but when the times comes for her when she can then have a cat, she dont go and get her cats back she buys a new kitten,

Hi everyone,

Well after reading some post's i don't think i will be posting again, Yes her cats got fostered and yes she didn't take them back however giving the cats away to a good and loving home what was best for the animal then maybe you should keep your silly school girl petty remarks for your sewing group!

It's been fun!

xx

Jac · 14-07-2008, 02:36 PM

Muffinmay dont let one person put you off Catsey. You can always block there posts.
As for your childish digs Bobbie at least get your facts right. It was Abi I was going to breed from bought on the "Active" registar.

yola · 14-07-2008, 02:38 PM

Nat - I remember you being in a similar situation? Being forced to move for similar reasons and finding you couldn't contain your indoor-only cats to the point where you had to rehome them?

You too now have new cats yourself do you not?

Surely some sensitivity and understanding of Jac's dilemma might be called for here . . .

bobbie3917 · 14-07-2008, 02:39 PM

well sorry Alex and Jac i didnt know that as i dont read here very often, i did say that finding them a foster home was a good idea, and i did ask that same question on a different post but got no reply so what am i to think?

but it does seam to be jac is having a go at another member for breeding moggy kittens just cos that member said she had her kitten to young. and that person is right and that breeder could get a fine off the GCCF it they were reported for selling kittens so young and with out vac.

i know people shouldnt throw stones when they live in glass houses and i really know that as i have done plenty of things wrong in my life and have learned from them, but it does not make it OK to start a thread that has been done lots and lots of times and 1 not so long ago just to have go at some1 cos of wot she said.

Jac should of know that getting her kitten at 7 weeks would course upset with some people

charliebubs · 14-07-2008, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbie3917

well sorry Alex and Jac i didnt know that as i dont read here very often, i did say that finding them a foster home was a good idea, and i did ask that same question on a different post but got no reply so what am i to think?

but it does seam to be jac is having a go at another member for breeding moggy kittens just cos that member said she had her kitten to young. and that person is right and that breeder could get a fine off the GCCF it they were reported for selling kittens so young and with out vac.

i know people shouldnt throw stones when they live in glass houses and i really know that as i have done plenty of things wrong in my life and have learned from them, but it does not make it OK to start a thread that has been done lots and lots of times and 1 not so long ago just to have go at some1 cos of wot she said.

Jac should of know that getting her kitten at 7 weeks would course upset with some people

I have to say that I agree with Nat's comment.

The fact that Jac said "who made you God" to one member who stood up for what she believed in and stated that it in indeed WRONG for a GCCF registered breeder to be letting kittens go at 7 weeks - and now has started this thread clearly against that same member

It's all a bit churlish - we are all entitled to opinions without it getting personal

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