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23-05-2006, 12:22 AM   #31

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I see.
Well that's more than enough genetics chat for one evening & now we're talking other genes too (not just colour) ... time for bed me thinks.

thanks again.
I'll PM you tomorrow if I get chance about an interesting mismarked dog. be interested to see what your thoughts are about it.



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23-05-2006, 12:24 AM   #32

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Nite Smudgley. Will look forward to hearing about the dog. I find it all very fascinating



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23-05-2006, 01:46 AM   #33

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I find colour gentics fascinating. Labs must be one of the easiest as there are only three colours. Something like Staffords and I am way out of my depth and cats - well I can't get my head around their colour genetics at all
staffords are easy as soon as u get your head around all staffords are reds lol even when u add white its easy next to labs/cats i think



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23-05-2006, 07:51 AM   #34

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Congratulations x x x

Genetics is way above my head LOL x



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23-05-2006, 08:15 AM   #35

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Congratulations Smudgley!!!! And I dont get genetics either!!



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23-05-2006, 09:31 AM   #36

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Congratulations Smudgely!!!

Yep no idea on genetics either altho I love reading other peoples posts on the subject.

Quite right Nat only one colour in staffords and that's red



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23-05-2006, 11:16 AM   #37

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Congratulations Smudgely!

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liver/liver in dogs = liver pups

blue/blue in cats = blue kittens
Just out of interest, would you choose to mate these pairings or would it be more preferably to mate, say a blue cat to a blue carrier (hypothetically of course)?

I know in rats, you would be wary of breeding a blue to a blue because by breeding recessives you often lose quality in the type (smaller eyes, light bone structure etc and also there used to be trouble with blues having blood clotting issues which were not ideal for birthing situations). However rats seem so much easier as there are no breeds as such.



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23-05-2006, 02:53 PM   #38

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I don't know a deal about breeding cats but in labradors liver/liver matings are quite common. There is a chance that coat colour can be affected but if you choose your lines carefully and don't breed too many generations of liver/liver without going back to black then most of the time it works ok. You wouldn't risk losing 'type' as long as you carefully select your lines..



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23-05-2006, 03:12 PM   #39

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Congratulations Smudgely!!!

Yep no idea on genetics either altho I love reading other peoples posts on the subject.

Quite right Nat only one colour in staffords and that's red
there is Nae only reds even Kazz's 2 girls are red but there brindle markings are so close together they look black if they had no brindle at all they would be red



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23-05-2006, 03:14 PM   #40

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Congratulations Smudgely!



Just out of interest, would you choose to mate these pairings or would it be more preferably to mate, say a blue cat to a blue carrier (hypothetically of course)?

I know in rats, you would be wary of breeding a blue to a blue because by breeding recessives you often lose quality in the type (smaller eyes, light bone structure etc and also there used to be trouble with blues having blood clotting issues which were not ideal for birthing situations). However rats seem so much easier as there are no breeds as such.
Mixes mother was a black carring blue and if i breed her she will go to a blue but if i keep a blue girl off her then she will not go to a blue or any other recessive colour



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