People against accidental litters/casual breeding

[Donna]

I would like to know what makes somebody so different from myself? When I got my two female kittens I knew they had to be vaccinated and I knew they had to be neutered. Both were done as soon as possible.

We need to find out why people think differently to what I see as "normal". Why do people delay etc (and money is not the issue as I never have any as most people on here that know me already know).

My stance on this is simple; both moggies and pedigrees should not be bred in such a casual manner. Moggies should NEVER be bred from and pedigrees should NEVER be bred for monetary gain (pet market). I agree with Dawn on a lot of points, but just dont have the balls to say to be honest!!

I cant remember the people who have had accidental litters, but I am not having a go at any of them, and I must of missed the thread regarding Bella, so am not judging anybody here personally.

[babycakes]

It's a very difficult subject and one that I struggle with.
I think you are right too Donna in saying 'we need to find out why people think differently'. It isn't always common sense unfortunately, even when we think it is and changes in the world don't occur by tutting and wagging our fingers at what we don't agree with, neither does chatisment and condemnation, as we are all aware when we are told off we go into child mode and either stop listening or we act defensively, it's human nature unfortunately. Education and looking for alternative solutions does work as does pulling rescources together, as is what is occuring on other threads. Sometimes experiences such as this produce excellent results and maybe we are all not doing enough preventative work only picking up this pieces of the aftermath. Which will continue unless we make a stance and educate.

[MrsH]

It's quite obvious that we need to be more upfront about our opposition to careless breeding, but as Donna said what is it that makes other people think otherwise?

I feel there are still quite a few people out there with a very outdated idea of what it means to be a cat owner. When I was a child, in the area where I grew up it was common to put a cat out at night because " that's what they do, they're hunters", and unwanted kittens were very swiftly disposed of by drowning (!) It doesn't bear thinking about I know, but this was an attitude very prevalent 40 years ago, no-one would have ever considered vaccinating a cat, or paying to get one as a pet.

Thank goodness attitudes have improved so much since then, let's not lose sight of how far we've come, not far enough I know, but we have made progress. As responsible members of a responsible forum we owe it to cats to stand up for what we believe and if we at Catsey have a reputation of being a forum that condones careless breeding then we should hang our heads in shame. I feel at the very least we should have a thread such as has been suggested and I also feel Yola's ideas (on other thread) will have strong support.

[kado]

All my cats are neutered/speyed as earliest as i could. I have seen in my area so many llitters advertised which is wrong. I have looked at other web sites but i dont go on. This site gives me so much information that i find invalulable some of it that i didnt know existed at all.


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[Jac]

I have been a member of Catsey for sometime now. It was a friendly site where people could talk about anything. Now I fear if there is an "accident" through a window or a cat gets into your house through a back or front door. A propper accident then the person involved wont come forward for help and support. So sad.

Unfortunatly my great grandad had a farm, they didnt spay or neuter they drowned the kittens. As someone said look at the progress made.

[Elaine]

Catsey has seen several members that have asked for advice and support who have still done nothing about having their animals neutered/spayed. We currently have an un-neutered Tom and well as un-spayed female moggies on the board.
My intention has never been to "personally" offend people here but atleast try to understand that I am also personally offended by the on going plight of ferals and unwanted cats. I feel passionately about cats and other animals.
I am not a perfect cat owner and have much to learn but I know and understand the basics.
In part we need to educate but we also need to be more honest about how we trully feel about the situation.

[Jac]

I personally have an un neuterd tom and an un spayed female.

[Elaine]

Originally Posted by Jac

I personally have an un neuterd tom and an un spayed female.

Oh Jac, I am talking moggies, please stop trying to make this into some personal attack against you because it isnt.

[Jac]

I'm not Elaine. OK we all know Caspurr is going to get the snip. 1/ when he is well enough and 2/ when he is big enough. As for Abi we will see not decided if I'm going to breed with her or not.

Just say though someone with a moggie went through what I did with Caspurr. They also had an intact breeding female. The boy is the moggie and caught the female before he was strong enough. Now that would be an accident wouldnt it?

What I'm saying there is genuine accidents, not free roaming entire females. Would that person feel free to post after this? I dont think so. My point Catsey has lost something.

[Erin]

Milo and Tinkerbell are both un neutured and un spayed but tinker bell is being done tomorow and Milo will be being done next month.