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09-08-2007, 08:09 PM   #51

Re: People against accidental litters/casual breeding


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Originally Posted by Jac
Firstly, Catsey is the only cat site I come on. The other's I don't care for. I was/am a member of Dogsey. I left a long time ago as it was getting far too big. I think the article SB wrote was fantastic. She was a lovely lady and very informative and helpful.
If we can copy this but change the statistics to cats wonderful.

May I also put my 2p worth in. I chose to buy two ragdolls, therefor took away two homes from moggies. Is that what your saying?
YES there are some accident litters, we have proof here on the forum. If these people pass on what happened to them it may make someone shut a window or stay in the garden. Fact is accidents happen.
I for one would much rather a person felt safe enough to come forward and say....help this is what has happened than sit worrying not knowing where to turn or what to do.
I also do not want anyone to leave because they have had a litter that was a genuine accident.
There are some that just want a litter and say it was an accident. These people we have to educate. Never will we stop accidents but even if one person thinks about it then hey that's progress.
I dont believe in a lot of things, there again I don't ram them down people's throats either. However thoes who add to the ferral population or breed just for the sake of it. Well that's another story.

Catsey is a small happy (most of the time) place to be. We can talk about anything not only our Cats. Please lets keep it this way.
Very well put, Jac!



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09-08-2007, 08:17 PM   #52

Re: People against accidental litters/casual breeding


I'd like to add that all the cats I've had over my lifetime, moggy and pedigreed, male and female were spayed/castrated. Even the ginger tom I grew up with over 60 years ago when it was not common practice, as MrsH pointed out.
Lets get back to the topic now, can we....?



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09-08-2007, 08:36 PM   #53

Re: People against accidental litters/casual breeding


I honestly think this should be put to bed. Everyone had had there say.



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09-08-2007, 09:19 PM   #54

Re: People against accidental litters/casual breeding


I second the motion, Jac' let's move on........!!!



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09-08-2007, 09:22 PM   #55

Re: People against accidental litters/casual breeding


I am all for anything that reduces the number of unwanted cats/kittens in rescue, however I am extremely saddened and disappointed at the way people whose cats have had litters have been treated, and the way they have been made to feel , in particular Luke. I think its ridiculous that he has felt obliged to leave this board due to some peoples attitude!!
My Siamese had a pedigree litter a few years ago, should I feel bad about that, or is that 'allowed'?

Catsey is better than this, and while I think we should do all we can to promote awareness of the huge problem of indiscriminate breeding, I also think we should remember we are primarily a community who share a love of our animals, and provide support to our members and friends.



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09-08-2007, 09:48 PM   #56

Re: People against accidental litters/casual breeding


Well said....!!



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10-08-2007, 01:57 AM   #57

Re: People against accidental litters/casual breeding


I think some valid points have been made (and some not-so-valid ones).

To begin with, and in short, yes we (as in all cat lovers everywhere not just here) need to make more people aware of the problems and the plight of animals in rescue - but no, we do not allow public floggings or 'bitchy', nasty, condescending tones and behaviour. Nobody has the right to treat another member like s***. We are not like the other forums in that respect - and that's something I am very proud of (and you should be too!). As I have always said, in all of the sites that I admin - there are ways and means to get your point across.

So - where do we go from here? Well I will be creating some posting guidelines for Catsey, similar to as we have on Dogsey - because we need to spell out what we deem is and is not acceptable behaviour. And I will be pushing ahead with the mod scheme - perhaps to begin with ask one or two of our Golbal Mods from Dogsey to pop over to help train Catsey's own mods, to do things in accordance with our rule book on Dogsey (as it will pretty much be the same here). I have generally let Catsey self-regulate, but as we are growing now we need to start enforcing our rules.

Of course I can see that some topics are very emotive, and some things upset people (although that still doesn't give anyone the right to be 'nasty') but in those instances 9 times out of a 10 an article could easily be written that goes into detail as to why such and such is not acceptable, or why some practises are considered unethical/irresponsible. Again it all boils down to how you get your point across.

This posting is not directed at any one person or any one situation - it's clarification of what Catsey is about and probably more importantly what it isn't about.

Now back on topic for this thread. If you have anything to say about the above or anything posted before this post (except for the 1st post) then use the feedback section - otherwise we'll be here forever.

Who would like to work on updating SB's article to reflect on the cat world? Please say so again even if you have already done so.

In addition I think it might be a good idea to start a new thread or perhaps even a have your say section where people can put their opinion across on the matter with reasons to back them up (so not just a pointless rant thread - give people something to think about, something that might make them think the same as you too - it's all about raising awareness and education remember!!). So I will get on that and get it sorted soon.

In the meantime - thank you everyone for taking the time to post in this thread, and your continued support for Catsey. Bout time we got a mod team sorted, we did well to do without for so long so you can all pat yourselves on the back



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10-08-2007, 02:05 AM   #58

Re: People against accidental litters/casual breeding


And thank you, Az for the above. I think it was needed .....



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13-08-2007, 02:35 PM   #59

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Just to say I too am adding a section on my website to raise awareness of iressponsible breeding and how people can get help with it if they need it.
Dawn.



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13-08-2007, 06:16 PM   #60

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Why not put the copy on here Dawn.



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