Another dog attack hits the news

[Jac]

I Would like to add here that I have owned bull breed dogs all my life. Never once have I been bitten...even in rescue work.
I have stayed at Moli's house a few times and once with Ceilidh. Her Staffies were more in danger of drowning her with kisses than anything else. She was rolling about the floor with them, never having met them before and I will add they are not used to small children.
I have helped Tracy with Staffy rescue as well and not had any problems either.
There is always a "bad" dog of any breed but it's normally from a BYB or owned by a moron.
My Blue would welcome all and anything into the house. He was a BIG entire boxer. I had rescue dogs, tortoises, cats, snakes and hamsters. He never bothered his bum!!!

[Kim]

I don't agree with what you said either Fran. There are many people who have worked tirelessly to promote a positive image of SBT's and introduce the 'punish the deed not the breed' campaign. Many loving, friendly non-vicious SBT's have been taken from their owners, just for their breed, it is disgusting and heartbreaking. I have openly said it wouldn't be my choice of breed, simply becuse I am in love with sighthounds, but know many who love staffies and we just cannot tarnish them all with the same brush, So unfair!

Re the 'cyber' people comment. I have met a few people on here, including you Fran. Those of us who have been posting for some time I see as my 'friends' really and believe and trust all that they say. Yes, we have our disagreements, I know I am strong-minded over a couple of issues particularly, but I am who I am, I have never made anything up about myself or my life. I like to think that is the same for us all.

[Kazz]

Originally Posted by Fran

Erin, I'm afraid that I don't know that there are responsible staffy owners on here, that own friendly staffies. People on here are after all 'cyber' people, they could tell us anything about themselves and who are we to argue as we don't know them?? I speak from 'real' experiences of the breed which in my case have not been good experiences and I'm sickend that day after day, children, other dogs and pets are being injured and attacked by not only staffies but certain other breeds too. Whilst I agree all breeds have the potential to injure, seemingly certain breeds do so a great deal more than others. How would you feel if it was your child injured by one of these dogs? I know how it feels as I know someone who's child has been attacked by one and I've witnessed an attack in our local park where two young boys playing footie were set upon by a staffie off it's lead. I'm aftraid that if petitions ever came into ban the breed I would sign them. Obviously everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I appreciate that just as I am entitled to mine

Fran I have stayed out of this thread apart from saying at the start its not dogs its the owners, I have bitten my tongue and although I did compose a "reply/post I did not post it without thought.

But I have to say I have met you and Tom and spent a good few hours with you and your OH a few years ago and I am not sure really how to respond to this.
For the last 3-4 years we have chatted on here and I have never spoken an untruth and if you are now saying I am irresponsible then please reconsider because I myself take that as an insult. I pray you did not mean it that way....but given the fact you stated it in your first paragraph then you obvously do.

Yes I am a cyber person but one who has gone out her way in the past to support you, I cannot believe you feel I have lied or spoken untruths as that is not the case.
Irresponsible breeding is the cause of lots of problems people who breed for money ratehr than the care of animals no one will stop that. Its is as rife in my breed as it is in your own.

So this is one STAFORD OWNER of many years drawing a line in the sand and saying how dare you say I have been lying on here.....

And there are certain people who are not fit to own my breed, as in many cases they are to dense to own any dog let alone as lovely a breed as the Stafford.

Karen

[Fran]

I'm sorry but I may have met some of you but I have never met your dogs, I have very bad experiences with staffies, do not like them, will never like them I'm afraid and yes Az one of the worst I have met is KC registered, it's owned by my Mother in law and she has been up in court because of it's aggresive behaviour, lucky she still has it and imo shouldn't still have it! This is cyber space and like I say anybody can say anything about themselves and their pets. I'm afraid this is my opinion, you are of course entitled to yours but I stand by what I said earlier and I would sign petitions to ban the breed. I have to add here that it is not the only breed that I would like to see banned.

[Kazz]

Fran are you calling me an irresponsible owner?

[Fran]

Originally Posted by Kazz

Fran are you calling me an irresponsible owner?

I never called you an irresponsible owner Kazz, neither have I said you are lying which you have accused me of in an earlier post I'm merely pointing out that this is cyber space and whilst yes, I have met you briefly, I have never met your dogs Kazz

[Moli]

So, obviously when we say our dogs are sociable and well mannered, not at all aggressive, you do not believe us PK??
Regarding your MIL dog, its aggressive , why is it aggressive, it was not born like that....has it been socialised with other dogs, has it been trained, taught some manners, sounds to me like it has not....No dog is born aggressive PK...

[Fran]

Originally Posted by Moli

....No dog is born aggressive PK...

No but aggresion traits are bred into certain breeds Moli

[Erin]

Fran did you not read that report that Elaine posted? have you not ready anything that the likes of Az,BD,Luke and others have replied with?

[Fran]

Originally Posted by Erin

Fran did you not read that report that Elaine posted? have you not ready anything that the likes of Az,BD,Luke and others have replied with?

Erin, no matter how many reports I could read would change my opinion of this. I have several, not just one but several bad experiences and not one good one. That for me says more than any 'report' that I can read