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13-05-2006, 06:15 PM   #81

Re: Moggies... is it ever right to breed them?


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She had one litter no problem Sue, the mastitis on the second litter the vet thought was a one off and the vet saw no reason why she couldn't go on to have the litter I had planned.

That's what makes us different Sue, I understand the risks involved with breeding and I am willing to take those risks..
Sadly though Fran, the risks involved are to Maud and not you. You said she had mastitis last litter and poorly again this litter. Just wondering why you think it is all worthwhile given her suffering and the costs involved to you? (again not having a go, just asking )





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13-05-2006, 06:17 PM   #82

Re: Moggies... is it ever right to breed them?


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Oh poor Foofoo...what an awful thing to happen to her. How is she now???
She is fantastic - all memories of her past life well and truly erased

I'll put a recent piccie of her on the piccies thread





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13-05-2006, 07:56 PM   #83

Re: Moggies... is it ever right to breed them?


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Sadly though Fran, the risks involved are to Maud and not you. You said she had mastitis last litter and poorly again this litter. Just wondering why you think it is all worthwhile given her suffering and the costs involved to you? (again not having a go, just asking )
I think this is what I want to ask to Kim.

1. If you dont breed for profit
2. Are prepared to put your Cat at huge risk, knowing she has suffered in the past
3. Say that you are out of pocket
4. Are not keeping any for yourself

Why do it?
Dawn.





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13-05-2006, 08:26 PM   #84

Re: Moggies... is it ever right to breed them?


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I think this is what I want to ask to Kim.

1. If you dont breed for profit
2. Are prepared to put your Cat at huge risk, knowing she has suffered in the past
3. Say that you are out of pocket
4. Are not keeping any for yourself

Why do it?
Dawn.
I don't see why anybody should justify themselves to you Dawn or anybody else on this forum, apologies if this is not how your post was intended to come across.





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13-05-2006, 08:34 PM   #85

Re: Moggies... is it ever right to breed them?


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I think we should really be discussing why are so many people so willing to get rid of animals.
I think that requires at least one person who ditches cats to be involved. Think CP is probably the wrong place to find one. Absolutely agree that that is a huge problem. People who don't have cats because they're genuinely interested and fond of cats. (Genuinely as in interested in finding out what makes their cat tick and in letting it be a happy cat.) More shoes I would not choose to walk an inch in, let alone a mile.





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13-05-2006, 08:39 PM   #86

Re: Moggies... is it ever right to breed them?


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I don't see why anybody should justify themselves to you Dawn or anybody else on this forum, apologies if this is not how your post was intended to come across.
Its a genuine question Emma, Fran has stated she makes no money from breeding moggy Cats, and that her Cat has had 2 accidental litters, one of which she was ill during, then mated her again and she has been ill again, I was just wondering why anyone would do that to a pet if its not intended as financial gain. Nobody "assumes" Vet bills for ill Cats, so what was the reason for her putting her Cat through it again as she also stated she had no intention of keeping any. The debate is whether or not its right to breed them, I was asking Frans reasons (as she does it) for doing it, what is wrong with that? No malice intended at all.
Dawn.





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13-05-2006, 08:49 PM   #87

Re: Moggies... is it ever right to breed them?


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And I am not one to think that you can make a profit at breeding either the costs are enormous - cat litter, making kittening pens, cat food, cat litter, litter boxs, kitten packs, worming tablets, flea treatment, vet fees, advertising and probably a new sofa lol.
so why have you done it?
again not to keep a kitten was it?





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13-05-2006, 09:00 PM   #88

Re: Moggies... is it ever right to breed them?


I'd imagine that any breeder with feeling would breed kittens for the joy they give to the breeder and the future owners. Just a guess here. No use making the perfect cat, if no-one else can enjoy it. No better way of letting your own perfect moggies live on than letting them continue in their kittens.
Ok, not debate, just emotion and speculation. Going to bed now. Too tired... : /





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13-05-2006, 09:06 PM   #89

Re: Moggies... is it ever right to breed them?


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I think this is what I want to ask to Kim.

1. If you dont breed for profit
2. Are prepared to put your Cat at huge risk, knowing she has suffered in the past
3. Say that you are out of pocket
4. Are not keeping any for yourself

Why do it?
Dawn.
Not that I am answerable to anyone on here...I bred this litter because I had some lovely homes lined up, there is a shortage of blue moggies, I had my vet's ok that it would be fine to do so and I have the time and the money to be able to raise happy, healthy babies whilst ensuring that Maud wants for nothing..

I get the distinct impression that no matter what I say, it will spark yet another load of questions and put me 'under the lamp' so as far as I am concerned, I have answered all your questions honestly and I have nothing further to add on this subject..





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13-05-2006, 09:10 PM   #90

Re: Moggies... is it ever right to breed them?


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so why have you done it?
again not to keep a kitten was it?
why do you do it?
Isn't it continuation of the species???
and why is it that caring loving cat owners are tarred with the same brush as inconsiderate unscrupulous breeders...moggie or pedigree????
We are all here on Catpages because we love our Cats, why should anyone be condemned for it, and if that includes having a litter of kittens for the sheer joy and pleasure then so what, as long as its done responsibly. Why should certain people be allowed to breed from ther cats and not others, that seems extremely arrogant to me. We shouldn't be attacking each other..we should be congratulating and encouraging those who are conscientious about the welfare of their cats and kittens!!!!!!!




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