Dog Owners....

[Hreow]

I'd imagine about half of the people here are.

Thank you for making that clear. As I said, I have little experience with dogs. And DogWeb.

[Emm]

I am a responsible dog owner and no I would not have a dog PTS for that - but then I wouldn't have put my dogs in that situation.

Dogs don't attack for no reason unless there are mental issues with them. It is the owner at fault for not looking after the dog properly - why should the dog lose its life because the owner is irresponsible All that will happen is the owner will go out and get another dog and the same scenario will happen again.

To call for all dogs to be destroy if they bite is barbaric and extremely harsh - and the view once they bite they will always bite is absolute rubbish!

Make the owner pay for the crime not the animal!!!!!!

[Emm]

I just want to add what those poor children went through must have been terrifying I know I would ahve been if it had happened to me - but I just feel strongly that the owners should be the ones who are punished.



My own dogs are ver wary of children and there was one day the local kids were teasing and throwing things into the garden at my dogs which was causing them to growl and bark - I went out and brought my dogs in and kept them in until the kids went away - this is what a responsible owner does

[smudgley]

This dog didn't just bite the child -

QUOTE FROM DONNA -well yesterday he was more than boisterous and he was barking and growling and then jumped the fence into Sean's friends garden and started towards the children.
There was a five year old girl and two 13 year old boys - the little girl ran inside screaming as the dog charged at them, and Sean and his friend also started running as the dog raced towards them. Sean and the little girl got inside, but Sean's friend ended up having his leg ripped apart as he tried to get in the door. The dog then got in the house and the boys had to fight it off with a dining chair.END OF QUOTE

I agree that the owner was irresponsible to allow this to happen - but if a dog of mine was showing these behaviour traits & that form of aggression WHATEVER the reason, it would be PTS without question.

[Emm]

well, if my dog was showing any of these traits I would start a training programme for the dog - I would also build a secure boundary to my garden and I would not allow the dog to be out unsupervised.

[Emm]

when you take on an animal they then become your responsibility - you are responsible for their behaviour their training and you are also responsible for their welfare.

By punishing the dog with death you are not punishing the person who is responsible for the whole incident - instead of calling for the dog to be dead why not call for the owner to banned from owning any more dogs.

[Donna]

Do you have children Emm??????????????

[CJK]

just caught up with this thread.
Those poor children. They will be trauamtised for years by this.
I got a tiny nip from a JR as a kid of three and have been scared of some dogs since then.

This is NOT normal behaviour for a dog at all, and the question of should it be pts has only one answer YES.
My dad was a police dog handler for years, and says this isnt normnal behaviour, the dog will more than likely have been or will now be, continually agressive, that the owners may have even trained him to be that way, and that you may probably find the dog is aggressive in it's own home too.

For the dog to jump the fence to attack shows soemthing serisouly wrong with the dog.
This dog sounds to be beyond training, and if it were my dog there is no way on earth I would risk another attack like this, OR WORSE to see if training would work.

It's a dangerous dog and cant be given the opportunity to attack again. This wasnt some little nip, or objection at being provoked, it was an unprecidented agressive attack.
If it were my dog it would have been taken to the vets and PTS immediatly, no doubts about it.

Yes, the owners are irrespnsible, yes they need sorting out, but so does the dog.

If the police dont do anything about this go to the local press, the publicity in itself can often help, but also the press often have lots of contact information that can help you.

I feel awfull for those poor children.

[Donna]

Originally Posted by CJK

I feel awfull for those poor children.

Thanks CJ. The little girl has now gone back to her home. The boys dad thinks they have taken the dogs out of the house as it is quiet.

[smudgley]

Originally Posted by Emm

when you take on an animal they then become your responsibility - you are responsible for their behaviour their training and you are also responsible for their welfare.

By punishing the dog with death you are not punishing the person who is responsible for the whole incident - instead of calling for the dog to be dead why not call for the owner to banned from owning any more dogs.

That doesn't solve the problem forthis dog though does it?

Everyone on this forum (I hope) is a responible pet owner, who loves their animals & does the best for them.
In the case of this dog, if he escaped from the garden & chased these children whatever the reason, & attacked them by "ripping the childs leg" then that is an attack, not a bite - but a very serious and unprovoked attack. Yes the owner is in the wrong, and irresponsible but this may happen again, this could be a baby next time.

I've been bitten by dogs over the years, I am in a proffession working with dogs. It happens. I had a nasty bite when I was 16 from a dog. But there's a difference between a dog bite & this type of aggression.

Quote from Emm - Dogs don't attack for no reason unless there are mental issues with them. end of Quote---Unfortunately I have to disagree with this statement, although I would like to think it is true, it isn't.