Unfornatly I've had to decide agaisn't this one, after umming and arring, and having been put off seeing it for a while I've decided that after seeing it, it would be better not to get him

I thought that he would be great, I knew they had animals, and thought that it will do the kitten well, as I thought that he would be well socialised, but it seems that he's not been let out of the bedroom, and was shaking with fear, and was not happy at all to see anyone new, the people have other cats which is fine, but they haven't got any of them vaccinated, which tbh I would want if getting a kitten from someone, espcailly as one I've now been told has disapeared for weeks at a time, ex feral tom cat, comes and goes as he wants, the person is just not who I thought, she describes herself as a animal lover, but I'm now wondering whether she is a hoarder, I had been to the front door, and in the back garden before, and had spoken to her a lot, but never knew the true extent as to whats in the house, I mean she has 13 cats (not including the kittens), two dogs, another on the way, fish, terripins, rabbits, and other pets, and after looking around at the animals, they are not kept in conditions that I would like, and after talking to neighbours I've also discovered that the RSPCA have been called on her for her pets before, so something that sounded too good to be true unfornatly is, and I would like a cat or kitten, but I can't see myself getting one from there, as with 13 cats (some of which are outdoors, some indoors, none neutered) I wouldn't like to know what the outdoor ones could be bringing in, which could be fine for the other adults, but the kittens I don't know, and I would be worrying that I could be getting a animal that has been exposed to diseases through the others (the vaccination thing has put me off a lot though, my ones use to be outdoor cats, but none of them were behind their vaccs, we did have two litters, but one cat was pregnant when she came, and escaped out of a two inch opening in a first floor window, and after that all the cats were spayed or neutered at six months old) and I don't think that I could in good consience be happy taking a kitten from there, so I might just keep the things I got and if in a few years time I'm ready to get a cat or kitten and find somewhere good to get one from will do, but now I'm in no hurry.